my force absorption / plyometric ability progress

[west58]

Hmmm...how do you know its a fascia tear? inflammation can show up anwhere and so can pain but not always in the same spot. I don't doubt you are feeling pain their, but it would be a mistake on you part to assume that your arch is the only thing wrong.

[adarqui]

Originally Posted by west58

Hmmm...how do you know its a fascia tear? inflammation can show up anwhere and so can pain but not always in the same spot. I don't doubt you are feeling pain their, but it would be a mistake on you part to assume that your arch is the only thing wrong.

well in one small spot there is pain sensitive to touch, it gets less and less as i warmup and/or rest.. but just rubbing the area has a burning sensation in that spot.. seems like a small tear to me.

peace

[AlexV]

Andrew,

James has a point. Think of how you said that warming up the pain gradually goes away/gets better. This may be because the contracted "gaurding" tissue is releasing and hence the foot feels better.

He also may be right about the weak anterior compartment, which may cause the arch to collapse too much placing stress on the pf

[james colbert]

Originally Posted by adarqui

dno mang, the reason it hurts is because it's just a small tear in the fascia.

it was from too many drops after a long dunk session.. like i said it's been getting alot better.

i train very hard, shit is going to happen, unfortunately..

peace

no doubt there is a tear im just saying that if you create a powerful enough eccentric contraction in that tissue you wont feel that pain because the strain is distributed instead of localized. ive had pf problems in the past as well and i found if i intentionally increased the intensity of eccentric contraction I could regain functionality without pain, not to mention this speeds the healing process.

[Nico]

Originally Posted by AlexV

Andrew,

James has a point. Think of how you said that warming up the pain gradually goes away/gets better. This may be because the contracted "gaurding" tissue is releasing and hence the foot feels better.

I had a similar experience. I messed up either my Peroneus Brevis or Peroneus Longus at the attachment on my right foot this past track season, which prevented me from even walking for a few weeks (diagnosis wasn't made because MRI was inconclusive-- could have also been a stress fracture). After I got back on the track I had some of the same problems as Andrew. At first the pain would be excruciating in my arch and in my fascia, but after fighting through the pain in warmups (bad idea- I know) and then sitting down for 5 minutes I could run pain free and do my workout for the day.

Some weird things would happen: Sometimes the fascia/arch pain would be in my right foot and then after I had a MAT session sometimes it would switch to the left foot (the specialist could make the pain switch sides a couple times a session-- it was crazy). The pain eventually went away after a few treatments (although it flared up now and again), but I recommend seeing a MAT specialist. I know my injury is different than yours, but still.

For those who are interested I saw Robert Lardner in Chicago. Turns out my injury was a result of tightness in my lower back (too many reverse hypers --Big Ten S&C; not my choice).

[west58]

Nico,

If the lower back was tight, then where did they find the weakness? I know the body is complicated but I never heard lower back tightness protecting weak peroneus muscles. Chicago has a lot of great MAT specialists. I think CK has been treated by Lardner as well...many years ago.

[Nico]

Not sure. It also could have been a stress fracture (I think that's what Lardner actually thought).

It was interesting. He spent awhile with me and found all the tender places and then, after thinking for awhile, had me do an exercise where I'd tuck my knees into my chest and then, with the knees still bent, bring them back down to the table. I'd do that 10-12 times. The purpose was to loosen up the lower back muscles. After I finished with the exercise, viola! all the places that were previously tender were no longer tender and the pain in my foot diminished significantly.

After that he put me on a treadmill (barefoot!) to run and test out how my foot felt. Surprisingly, there was no pain, but I did start to experience some arch/fascia burning. Then he did some work, put me on the table, made some adjustments, and had me hop back on the treadmill. It was better after that, but the arch/fascia pain after a few minutes came back, but this time on the other foot.

Weird stuff. I was just so amazed at how his simple exercise worked like magic to make my pain go away (the exercise also made my abs sore, interestingly enough). The burning sensation in my arch/fascia took a couple months to slowly go away, however.

I can't explain it like he could, but I hope that kind of answers your question, West. I don't know specifically what he thought needed activation; all he told me was it was a "lower back tightness."

[west58]

Interesting. This doesn't sound like MAT...at least the knees to the chest...must be another modality he uses in addition to MAT.

[adarqui]

bOOm!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddtAaowqvbw&fmt=22